Forgotten Pasts and Remembered Futures

Soul and Circuitry

On todays menu is a friday flirt with how we can't both be an immigrant and a native too. What it means that we deny we once came to this country too, with only hope and nothing to do.

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Forgotten pasts and rememberd futures

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R.E.M. - Man on the Moon (1992)

If you believed they put a man on the moon

Connects to the thread about American mythmaking and spectacle. The song uses Andy Kaufman's performance art and moon landing skepticism to question what narratives we accept, what we remember, what we forget. This is our historical amnesia and how our empire rewrites our own story.

Bruce Springsteen - My Hometown (1984)

Now Main Street's whitewashed windows and vacant stores

Captures the transition from neighborhoods to craters of economic zones. We are all commodities now, in as far as we can be made ledgible. Springsteen chronicles the hollowing of community. It is the shift from places where people "pulled their weight" together to abandoned spaces where we live atomized, alone and lonely, sorted purely by market forces.

Rage Against the Machine - Testify (1999)

The movie ran through me, the glamour subdue me

Speaks directly to empire, manufactured consent, and how spectacle obscures cycles of violence. The band's fusion of anti-imperialist politics with hard rock captures the contradiction of power—founded on revolution, now perpetuating conquest. Music for our future?

The immigrants certainly came and conquored, they poured into America, soon they formed and organized a rebellion against the real Americans, the red capped born in the usa types. The cycle drawing close to it's final moment and therefor to it's first. our loathing of how we stormed Ellis Island and destroyed the lazy savage, now projected onto the disposable workers tunneling under our big beautiful walls. We hate them because we don't want to remember our broken knee. we allow Israel play Custer with the Phillistines. more than allow, we bankroll. our lust for power makes us the invasive species, the Pharoes where right to fear the locust hoards. we stripp and devour, there is no final hour. and when we have cleard our plate, we cast our eyes on juicy looking Mars.
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This is a poetic and provocative meditation on American history, colonialism, and cycles of violence. Drawing parallels between:
European immigration and indigenous displacement
Contemporary immigration debates and historical amnesia
US-Israel policy and 19th century westward expansion
Human expansionism as a potentially endless pattern
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The writing uses vivid imagery—Ellis Island, Wounded Knee, tunneling workers, Mars colonization—to suggest we repeat patterns of conquest while forgetting we were once the conquerors ourselves.
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Your piece touches on how societies rationalize dominance, project historical guilt onto present situations, and potentially carry these patterns beyond Earth. The circular structure ("the cycle drawing close to it's final moment and therefor to it's first") suggests either inevitable repetition or that examining origins might reveal something about our current trajectory.
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This kind of historical reckoning appears in works from James Baldwin's essays to contemporary indigenous writers examining settler colonialism. The comparison of different historical moments of expansion—westward movement, Middle Eastern policy, space colonization—raises questions about whether conquest is intrinsic to certain power structures or if different futures are possible.
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What prompted this reflection? Are you working on a longer piece, or exploring these themes in your own writing?
we are about to build a arc of triump, the spirit of empire animates our very halls of power. a founding father would not mark their intent as materialized.
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You're observing a stark departure from founding ideals—the republic transformed into something its architects might not recognize.
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The "arc de triomphe" image is pointed: that monument celebrates Napoleon's imperial conquests, the antithesis of the republican experiment the founders envisioned. They explicitly rejected monarchical pageantry, hereditary power, and the trappings of empire. Washington refused a crown. The aesthetic was deliberately restrained, classical-republican rather than imperial.
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Now the "spirit of empire" occupies those same halls—military supremacy projected globally, executive power expanding beyond constitutional bounds, the symbolic language shifting from civic virtue to dominance and spectacle. The founders feared standing armies, foreign entanglements, concentrated executive power. They designed a system meant to frustrate empire-building.
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Your observation that they "would not mark their intent as materialized" cuts deep. Whether one views the founders as flawed visionaries or hypocrites (slaveholders writing about liberty), the gap between their stated republican principles and the current imperial posture is vast. The architecture of Washington D.C. deliberately evoked Rome's Republic—the question is whether we're living through the transition to its Empire.
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Are you thinking about specific recent shifts in rhetoric or symbolism that brought this to mind? The language around power has become notably more maximalist.
even just back a few decades(more than three..) we still had neigbourhoods, not hoods. any one was welcome as long as they pulled their weight. now merit means simply digits on your balance sheet.
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You're touching on something many people feel—a shift from community cohesion based on contribution and character to atomization based purely on wealth.
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The 1970s neighborhoods had their own exclusions and problems (redlining, segregation, rigid social conformity), but there was a different economic reality: a single income could support a family, neighbors knew each other, local institutions—churches, unions, civic groups—created bonds across class lines. "Pulling your weight" meant showing up, helping neighbors, contributing to the community fabric.
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The transformation to "hoods"—segregated by income, surveilled, disinvested—reflects decades of policy choices. Financialization of everything. The replacement of stakeholder capitalism with shareholder primacy. Housing as investment vehicle rather than shelter. The hollowing out of civic institutions that once bridged divides.
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"Merit means simply digits on your balance sheet" captures how we've collapsed all value into monetary value. Community standing once came from multiple sources—being a good neighbor, skilled craftsperson, involved parent, helpful elder. Now net worth becomes the primary measure, and those without it become invisible or threatening.
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The irony: this same system that judges worth purely by wealth also makes it nearly impossible for people "pulling their weight" with honest work to achieve security. Teachers, nurses, trades people—essential roles, but the digits don't reflect their merit.
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What neighborhood or community are you thinking of when you write this?
oh, no, just getting ready to tidy up and leave the office, tgif🧢
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Ha! Fair enough—Friday afternoon philosophizing before clocking out. Sometimes the big thoughts hit right when you're wrapping up for the week.
I need a weekend🧢😅

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